Top 5 favorite Sonic Characters?

[william]

The fact is not many people really care about these characters you speak of, partly cause some fans like myself got into Sonic during the dreamcast era thus never knew these characters. Your just complaining cause your so lost in the 90s that you seem to be unable to accept anyone new. Also sense you seem to hate Shadow, heres a bit of information, the fandom is the reason hes alive. In SA2 he was ment to stay dead, but he got such a fanbase SEGA brought him back using the power of plot holes. So blame the fandom, as for Chip, Chip is pretty much supposed to be gone now so there not much of a reason to be hating him now. Frankly your getting annoying cause all your points seem biased on the fact that you seem to love the old school Sonic.

[Meredy_Chao]

Um, let's not start a flame war, please. -- leave one of the light topic light and NOT serious.

[william]

Its called a debate, a simple battle of wits. I have them with my friends often and we rarely ever get mad a eachother so maybe...its not flaming, ya know?

[whimsy]

Nov 5, 2009 10:40:35 GMT -5 william said:

The fact is not many people really care about these characters you speak of, partly cause some fans like myself got into Sonic during the dreamcast era thus never knew these characters. Your just complaining cause your so lost in the 90s that you seem to be unable to accept anyone new. Also sense you seem to hate Shadow, heres a bit of information, the fandom is the reason hes alive. In SA2 he was ment to stay dead, but he got such a fanbase SEGA brought him back using the power of plot holes. So blame the fandom, as for Chip, Chip is pretty much supposed to be gone now so there not much of a reason to be hating him now. Frankly your getting annoying cause all your points seem biased on the fact that you seem to love the old school Sonic.

Biased towards the days of Sonic's gaming career that majority of old fans agree are good? Partially denied. I liked the Sonic Rush and Sonic Advance games (but then again those games are more or less like those old Sonic games). And I believe I already listed Blaze as one of the characters I was fine with. And Sonic Battle was a fun little distraction... and maybe I should add that I think Dr. Robotnik's new look is cooler than his old one. More fitting.

I didn't mind SA1 (which I played in the form of SADX on the PC) much either, but it lacked that something the old school sonic games had- a lack of an annoying camera. And there was lack of the actual Sonic-speed which you could find in the 2D games.

And oh yes... nobody cares about Fang and Mighty? You just denied my existence, and the existence of several people who have been around since Sonic's beginning, people who bought enough Sonic shite and games to justify SEGA continuing to make Sonic games to this very day. You also denied the existence of fanart and tributes and petitions made by these very same people. Not a very good debate tactic.

[william]

You forgot how to read? I said not many, not nobody, big difference. You have to remember that Sonic was made for children, so about half the current fan base is made up of kids between I would say 8 and 13, some old school fans stop caring about Sonic due to games such as Shadow the hedgehog, unleashed, and secret rings, which I personally found to all be enjoyable. So about half the Sonic fan base does not know these characters you speak of, im sure some fans who have played as these characters also don't care. Thus I would say about 70% of the fanbase prefer the new idiots or just don't care about the old school cast like you do, they like the mains, but not the supporting ones such as chaotixs and Fang. The majority of the fan base does not care. I know these characters have fans, but characters like Shadow, Blaze, and somewhat Silver have just as much if not more. The only one of these characters that I think needs to come back is Metal Sonic, Heroes was made 5 years ago, so why not bring him back again?

[whimsy]

Nov 6, 2009 1:13:05 GMT -5 william said:

You forgot how to read? I said not many, not nobody, big difference. You have to remember that Sonic was made for children, so about half the current fan base is made up of kids between I would say 8 and 13, some old school fans stop caring about Sonic due to games such as Shadow the hedgehog, unleashed, and secret rings, which I personally found to all be enjoyable. So about half the Sonic fan base does not know these characters you speak of, im sure some fans who have played as these characters also don't care. Thus I would say about 70% of the fanbase prefer the new idiots or just don't care about the old school cast like you do, they like the mains, but not the supporting ones such as chaotixs and Fang. The majority of the fan base does not care. I know these characters have fans, but characters like Shadow, Blaze, and somewhat Silver have just as much if not more. The only one of these characters that I think needs to come back is Metal Sonic, Heroes was made 5 years ago, so why not bring him back again?

Oops. Allow me to correct myself... actually, there's not much difference. You still underestimated them.

And lemme tell you what Mighty and Fang have that Shadow and Silver do not offer (we can leave Blaze out because I don't mind her much)- they're not hedgehogs (The Sonic series has 4 hedgehogs and that's more than any of the other animals! Too many I say!), they're not emo wieners or "gangstas", and WILL YOU LOOK AT FANG- He has the boots and the hat and the belt and the friggin mischievous fanged grin, and there's that awesome purple color, and he's A WOLF/WEASEL THING. AND HE'S A SNIPER.


and oh, some of those old fans haven't "moved on". There's a lot of 'em. Lemme give ya an example- Ever heard of Sonic Vegemite? It's got these guys in the friggin majority. and it has 1073 members.

That and yes, the Sonic games may be being made for 8 to 13 year olds... but don't you know that all things tend to attract people who don't fall in their respective target audiences? I myself was YOUNGER THAN 8 YEARS when I got my first exposure to Sonic.

[william]

Shadow stoped caring about maria like 3 years ago and hasn't really complained about anything else sense and how is he a gangsta, hes basicly a darker version of Sonic, a role that Fang or mighty can't fullfil. Silver has had little screentime due to him being somewhat new, but I personaly enjoy him as a character. Im getting tired of people pulling off 'there all hedgehogs' card, its getting old and if you need such a overused complaint to defend your point, then your running out of things to say.

Another thing thats getting annoying and really old is everyone calling Shadow or Silver emo, how the hell are they emo? Do you see any cuts on them? Do you see them crying constantly over every little thing? Sure Silver was sad over the loss of Blaze, but thats not being emo thats expressing emotion towards the possibly death of your best friend. Shadow's maria thing was getting old and im glad it ended after his game, but it made sense why he was so upset about losing her. Its like you expect characters not to express any form of sadness and if they do you call them emo.

As for your last two points 1073 is a very small part of the world's population, lets say half of that is adults who haven't played or don't know sonic, now lets say half of that is in my group as the new school fans, thats about 1-2 million people, 1073 don't seem like much when you add it all up ya know? Also I used that age range of the Sonic games as an example of how many new school sonic fans have joined the fanbase, its pretty safe to assume it makes up about 50-70% of the fanbase over the last 10 years. Thus they would not have known or cared about these characters cause they didn't grow up with them like you did.

As for your little praise about Fang, I have seen his character design and to be honest I don't care, I try not to be biased over the older characters, but I have played Sonic fighters and I didn't care for him at all. Why does everyone have to complain about the past of a video game series from the 90s?

[whimsy]

Nov 6, 2009 10:14:13 GMT -5 william said:

As for your last two points 1073 is a very small part of the world's population, lets say half of that is adults who haven't played or don't know sonic, now lets say half of that is in my group as the new school fans, thats about 1-2 million people, 1073 don't seem like much when you add it all up ya know? Also I used that age range of the Sonic games as an example of how many new school sonic fans have joined the fanbase, its pretty safe to assume it makes up about 50-70% of the fanbase over the last 10 years. Thus they would not have known or cared about these characters cause they didn't grow up with them like you did.

It was only one example. I haven't even counted the people on other places- such as Sonic CuLt, Moogle Cavern, Sonic Retro, and all those places.


Though I might want to add... I still am gonna prefer Amy to Rogue. Why? Because I'm more familiar with Amy. Because she's been around longer. Because I like her design too.


And I will admit, I don't hate these new characters- let me repeat that I liked playing as Blaze. But it doesn't mean SEGA's constantly adding new characters and shafting the old ones and rendering old favorites to "only appear in cutscenes" status doesn't get annoying.


That and winners don't need no darker versions of themselves foo.

[owlxxcity]

blaze/chaos/shadow/nuckles/and sonic

[Metal Sonix]

I say mine are, Metal Sonic, Metal Tails, Metal Amy, Tails Doll and Amy.

[¢¾¢¾The_Blue_Blur¢¾¢¾]

I already said mine a few pages back.