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Post by Phazon on Oct 23, 2009 19:20:50 GMT -5
Sonic, Shadow, Mephiles, Knuckles, Rouge
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Post by Meredy_Chao on Oct 24, 2009 9:33:21 GMT -5
I like Rouge, but...she is kinda useless in a way too.
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Post by william on Oct 24, 2009 12:02:29 GMT -5
Shes the less dependent non fan girl version of Amy, nuff said
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Post by ~~Cookie the Rabbit~~ on Oct 24, 2009 16:02:41 GMT -5
Cream, Cheese, Shadow, Mephiles, Tails
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Post by emojar on Oct 24, 2009 20:13:22 GMT -5
I disagree... Rouge is totally more independant than Amy will ever be. She's got her own place, does her own thing and she DOESN'T fallow Shadow (or Knux) around like a love sick puppy dog. She's pretty much awesome.
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Post by whimsy on Nov 2, 2009 15:19:17 GMT -5
Lessee... Sonic, Metal Sonic, Knuckles, Amy, Tails...
Too bad you said 5 or else I would've added Eggman and the Chaotix to that list.
Basically any character they made for the Sonic world prior to the Dreamcast era is fine with me... particularly the ones introduced in the 16-bit and 32-bit eras. But Blaze the cat is fine too.
speaking of Amy following Sonic like a little puppy dog... Judging by the fact that you can beat up characters with her in Sonic Battle and the descriptions of her moves in that game... she's more like a Lovesick Rottweiler.
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Post by sonikkublast on Nov 2, 2009 15:22:58 GMT -5
I gotta say... Mephiles, Cream, Amy, chao, Sonic
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Post by emojar on Nov 2, 2009 21:35:04 GMT -5
Lessee... Sonic, Metal Sonic, Knuckles, Amy, Tails... Too bad you said 5 or else I would've added Eggman and the Chaotix to that list. Basically any character they made for the Sonic world prior to the Dreamcast era is fine with me... particularly the ones introduced in the 16-bit and 32-bit eras. But Blaze the cat is fine too. speaking of Amy following Sonic like a little puppy dog... Judging by the fact that you can beat up characters with her in Sonic Battle and the descriptions of her moves in that game... she's more like a Lovesick Rottweiler. I never said Amy wasn't awesome. I just think that Rouge is awesomer. Well... actually its a bit of a tie. Amy jsut is annoying and that's the only differnetial point in the two. ^^
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Post by whimsy on Nov 3, 2009 1:07:56 GMT -5
I would give Amy preference over Rogue because Amy was introduced way before Rogue was.
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Post by william on Nov 3, 2009 1:55:01 GMT -5
There is a flaw in your idea of which is better. Who cares who was shown first? It depends on personality, backstory, place in the games, design, gameplay style, then the person must wonder if this person like this character better then this character if you add up all these things together. Basicly lets say I debate which I like better Sonic or Shadow? Well Shadow has a better backstory then Sonic, I like how Shadow plays his role in the game as sorta a dark hero, then Sonic plays his role as the main hero, but only slightly, I prefer Sonic's design and gameplay style, and I prefer Sonic's personality slightly better. So I prefer Sonic over Shadow, but only slightly. Your idea of which is better seems to be based on the fact that you prefer the old school games over the new school, which to me is wrong and unfair to the characters.
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Post by whimsy on Nov 3, 2009 2:27:32 GMT -5
There is a flaw in your idea of which is better. Who cares who was shown first? It depends on personality, backstory, place in the games, design, gameplay style, then the person must wonder if this person like this character better then this character if you add up all these things together. Basicly lets say I debate which I like better Sonic or Shadow? Well Shadow has a better backstory then Sonic, I like how Shadow plays his role in the game as sorta a dark hero, then Sonic plays his role as the main hero, but only slightly, I prefer Sonic's design and gameplay style, and I prefer Sonic's personality slightly better. So I prefer Sonic over Shadow, but only slightly. Your idea of which is better seems to be based on the fact that you prefer the old school games over the new school, which to me is wrong and unfair to the characters. Yeah well it's wrong and unfair to the OLDER characters that they don't enjoy the same backstory and development as the new idiots. Not to mention that SEGA seems to be giving most of them the shaft, which kinda pisses me off. Anyway, there are a number of characters amongst the old school Sonic lineup who deserve to be used more often instead of rolling out another animalthing after another... like how about this guy: And... hey! Let's not forget: And oh... might I add... there is ONE reason I would prefer Rogue over Amy... Wanna know what that is? Actually, TWO reasons... hehe...heheheheheheheh.
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Post by william on Nov 3, 2009 14:28:33 GMT -5
You do know the characters you placed above were characters made back in the early times of video gaming, thus the system limits made it hard to provide as much personality and backstory as the so called 'new idiots'. These characters would be hard to place in the newer games, they would be a waste of space. I truely thank Unleashed for keeping the characters to a low amount. Characters such as Shadow and Chip were needed for games such as Sonic adventure 2, Sonic unleashed, Sonic 06, cause they added needed information and actions to the story. Fang and Mighty are characters who can't add much to the stories that have been made and most likely will never add anything to newer stories. You have been verbly countered, care to try again to provide a better defense?
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Post by whimsy on Nov 4, 2009 2:46:25 GMT -5
You do know the characters you placed above were characters made back in the early times of video gaming, thus the system limits made it hard to provide as much personality and backstory as the so called 'new idiots'. These characters would be hard to place in the newer games, they would be a waste of space. I truly thank Unleashed for keeping the characters to a low amount. Characters such as Shadow and Chip were needed for games such as Sonic adventure 2, Sonic unleashed, Sonic 06, cause they added needed information and actions to the story. Fang and Mighty are characters who can't add much to the stories that have been made and most likely will never add anything to newer stories. You have been verbly countered, care to try again to provide a better defense? Yes, I am very well aware that the above characters were introduced back when system limits made it impossible to give the- hey, wait a second! Weren't there plenty of RPGs released in those days, like Chrono Trigger, Earthbound the Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy series, and a heck lotta others? And what about the fact that some Sega CD games could have cutscenes and voice-acting along with the CD-quality audio? Your point on vaguely-defined "limits" (memory? hardware? software?) was shot down like a lame duck. Now onto the characters. Firstly, Shadow, Rogue, and all the new petting-zoo twits could easily be shelved like those dudes were. And it would probably be better if they were because the only people who really like Shadough are little kids who The Offspring made fun of in their song "Pretty Fly for a White Guy" and little whiny emo potatoes who like My Chemical Romance and mutilate themselves. Secondly, Sonic the Hedgehog went a loooong time without much storyline, so there's a safe reason to think that storylines really aren't worth the paper they're typed on as far as Sonic is concerned. Thirdly, Shadow is redundant. Fang used guns well before Shadow set his ugly Emo/gangsta/sk8r rear end on the Sonic world and defecated on it. These old characters can be bought back to do the work of a new character VERY VERY easily. Fourthly, now that these hardware limits are gone these other guys can also be bought back much like the Chaotix were. It would be MUCH BETTER than simply making yet another new character.
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Post by william on Nov 4, 2009 19:23:45 GMT -5
Those rpgs were on nintendo consoles not SEGA consoles, which most Sonic games were on at the time, so maybe the SNES was a better piece of hardware then SEGA whatever console. I think SEGA knows the limits there own console can handle. Also how can Mighty and Fang replaces Shadow and Chip's place in games like SA2 and Unleashed? Please explain how they can be the ultimate life form or Light Gaia? Please explain this or your point is flawed
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Post by whimsy on Nov 4, 2009 23:28:13 GMT -5
Those rpgs were on nintendo consoles not SEGA consoles, which most Sonic games were on at the time, so maybe the SNES was a better piece of hardware then SEGA whatever console. I think SEGA knows the limits there own console can handle. Also how can Mighty and Fang replaces Shadow and Chip's place in games like SA2 and Unleashed? Please explain how they can be the ultimate life form or Light Gaia? Please explain this or your point is flawed Hmm? Oh yes, there were RPGs for the Mega Drive as well, I just forgot their names- Ah, yes, here's one- the Phantasy Star series. And I believe there was an RPG called Lunar which came out for the Sega CD. As for how Shadow and this Chip can be replaced in those games... You might have a point there, you can't exactly replace them without altering the storyline of those games. But like I said, Sonic doesn't need much of a story to be Sonic. And what I meant was that INSTEAD of introducing a new set of little fuzzballs SEGA could easily have just used Mighty and Fang or some other little obscurity from Sonic's past. SEGA can easily forget Shadow and Chip and leave them in a cramped box in a vault to gather dust much like they did the same to Mighty and Fang, Ultimate self-mutilating life forms or not. UNRELATED: Amy can whack your Ultimate Life form and his jewel-thief so-not-a-rip-off-of-catwoman-from-batman girlfriend to a bloody pulp with a silly cartoon hammer in Battle.
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